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Simon refers to verse 1489 of Macer Floridus, here quoted from Choulant's (1832: 89) edition:
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Simon refers to verse 1489 of Macer Floridus, here quoted from Choulant's (1832: 89) edition [[http://www.archive.org/stream/deviribusherbaru00mace#page/89/mode/1up]]:
 
   
 
   
1489 ''Enula, quam Graecus Elnam (vocat Eleniumque''
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1489 ''Enula, quam Graecus Elnam (vocat Eleniumque'' <br />
 
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1490 ''Dicitur a medicis,…)'' {the bracketed section is not included by Simon}. <br />
1490 ''Dicitur a medicis,…)'' {the bracketed section is not included by Simon}.  
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"Enula, which the Greek calls ''elna'' (and ''elenium'' // as it is called by the physicians")
 
"Enula, which the Greek calls ''elna'' (and ''elenium'' // as it is called by the physicians")
 
Verse 1489 is very divergent in the different codices and Choulant mentions the vv.ll. in the annotations to ''Elna: Inula, Elnum, elnam, elenam, helenon.''
 
Verse 1489 is very divergent in the different codices and Choulant mentions the vv.ll. in the annotations to ''Elna: Inula, Elnum, elnam, elenam, helenon.''
  
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''elna'': <br />
 
Simon says that ''elna'' is the word used ''vulgo'', i.e. by the "common people" whereas Choulant's version has that ''Graecus'', "a Greek speaker", would say ''elna''.
 
Simon says that ''elna'' is the word used ''vulgo'', i.e. by the "common people" whereas Choulant's version has that ''Graecus'', "a Greek speaker", would say ''elna''.
  
 
However, Choulant's apparatus criticus does mention a variant reading:  
 
However, Choulant's apparatus criticus does mention a variant reading:  
''Enula, quam vulgus Elnam vocat'' - "Enula, which the common people call ''elna''", i.e. Simon's version, which makes much more sense since there is no documented Greek variant form ''elna''. In fact Ernout, Meillet & André (2001) mention under ''inula'' that forms like ''elna, ella, enula'' can be found in glosses.  
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''Enula, quam vulgus Elnam vocat'' - "Enula, which the common people call ''elna''", i.e. Simon's version, which makes much more sense since there is no documented Greek variant form ''elna''. In fact Ernout, Meillet & André (2001) mention under ''inula'' that forms like ''elna, ella, enula'' can be found in glosses. Late Latin ''elna'' < *enla and ''ella'' live on in antiquated Italian ''ella'' and German ''Alant''.
  
 
Ultimately, the word is derived from Greek ἑλένιον /helénion/ for which LSJ attribute multiple botanical identifications: ''Calamintha incana'' "calamint"; also "elecampane", and finally they gloss it as a synonym to σύμφυτον /sýmphyton/, which itself has multiple meanings.  
 
Ultimately, the word is derived from Greek ἑλένιον /helénion/ for which LSJ attribute multiple botanical identifications: ''Calamintha incana'' "calamint"; also "elecampane", and finally they gloss it as a synonym to σύμφυτον /sýmphyton/, which itself has multiple meanings.  
  
 
''Inula'' and its Greek source ἑλένιον /helénion/ have both survived into botanical Latin in the Linnaean plant name ''Inula helenium'', L., "elecampane", and there is a reasonable chance that Simon was indeed thinking of this plant.   
 
''Inula'' and its Greek source ἑλένιον /helénion/ have both survived into botanical Latin in the Linnaean plant name ''Inula helenium'', L., "elecampane", and there is a reasonable chance that Simon was indeed thinking of this plant.   
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[[User:WilfGunther|WilfGunther]] ([[User talk:WilfGunther|talk]]) 10:49, 17 June 2016 (BST)
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See also: [[Macer Floridus]], [[Enula]], [[Rasin]]
 
See also: [[Macer Floridus]], [[Enula]], [[Rasin]]

Latest revision as of 09:49, 17 June 2016

Elna secundum Macrum enula vulgo.


Apparatus:

Elna ABC efp | Elua j
enula | est enula f | enula & j


Translation:

Elna, according to Macer Floridus, is the common people’s pronunciation of Latin enula.


Commentary:

Simon refers to verse 1489 of Macer Floridus, here quoted from Choulant's (1832: 89) edition [[1]]:

1489 Enula, quam Graecus Elnam (vocat Eleniumque
1490 Dicitur a medicis,…) {the bracketed section is not included by Simon}.
"Enula, which the Greek calls elna (and elenium // as it is called by the physicians") Verse 1489 is very divergent in the different codices and Choulant mentions the vv.ll. in the annotations to Elna: Inula, Elnum, elnam, elenam, helenon.

elna:
Simon says that elna is the word used vulgo, i.e. by the "common people" whereas Choulant's version has that Graecus, "a Greek speaker", would say elna.

However, Choulant's apparatus criticus does mention a variant reading: Enula, quam vulgus Elnam vocat - "Enula, which the common people call elna", i.e. Simon's version, which makes much more sense since there is no documented Greek variant form elna. In fact Ernout, Meillet & André (2001) mention under inula that forms like elna, ella, enula can be found in glosses. Late Latin elna < *enla and ella live on in antiquated Italian ella and German Alant.

Ultimately, the word is derived from Greek ἑλένιον /helénion/ for which LSJ attribute multiple botanical identifications: Calamintha incana "calamint"; also "elecampane", and finally they gloss it as a synonym to σύμφυτον /sýmphyton/, which itself has multiple meanings.

Inula and its Greek source ἑλένιον /helénion/ have both survived into botanical Latin in the Linnaean plant name Inula helenium, L., "elecampane", and there is a reasonable chance that Simon was indeed thinking of this plant.


WilfGunther (talk) 10:49, 17 June 2016 (BST)


See also: Macer Floridus, Enula, Rasin


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